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Q4 2023 NRX Pharmaceuticals Inc Earnings Call

Participants

Matthew Duffy; Chief Business Officer; NRX Pharmaceuticals Inc

Jonathan Javitt; Chief Scientist, Director; NRX Pharmaceuticals Inc

Stephen Willard; Chief Executive Officer, Director; NRX Pharmaceuticals Inc

Richard Narido; Chief Financial Officer; NRX Pharmaceuticals Inc

Tim Moore; Analyst; EF Hutton

Presentation

Operator

Good morning, everyone, and welcome to the NRx Pharmaceuticals, Inc fourth quarter and full year 2023 results conference call. Currently, all participants are in a listen only mode as a reminder, this conference call is being recorded. I will now turn the call over to Matthew Duffy, the company's Chief Business Officer. Please go ahead.

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Matthew Duffy

Thank you, Camilla, and welcome, everyone.
Before we proceed with the call.
I would like to remind everyone that certain statements made during this call are forward-looking statements under U.S. federal securities laws. These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from historical experience or present expectations. Additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ from statements made on this call is contained in our periodic reports filed with the SEC. Forward-looking statements made during this call speak only as of the date hereof, and the company undertakes no obligation to update or revise the forward-looking statements. Information presented on this call is contained in the preannounced press release issued Thursday, the company's Form 10-K filed Friday, and the press release issued this morning, all of which may be accessed from the Investor page of the NRx Pharmaceuticals website.
Joining me today are Jonathan Javitt, our Chairman and Chief Scientist, Stephen Willard, Chief Executive Officer, and Richard Narido, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer. Jonathan and Stephen will present and provide a summary of the company's progress. Rich will review the company's financial results, and then Jonathan will review upcoming milestones before making closing comments. Following their prepared remarks, we will address investor questions. I will now turn the call over to Jonathan. Jonathan?

Jonathan Javitt

Thank you, Matt. Good morning, everyone. And thank you for joining us for the 2023's been a pivotal year, both for NRx and for the field of interventional psychiatry and its approach to suicidal depression and PTSD last week, we were invited to give a keynote presentation at the 2024 international ketamine conference held at Oxford University. It's now 37 years since Daniel Java and his colleagues at the Albert Einstein School of Medicine, maybe unprecedented discovery at the NMDA receptor of the brain is key to understanding schizophrenia and depression. It's 25 years since Rob Berman and his colleagues at Yale University may be equally surprised in discovery that NMDA antagonist. In this case, ketamine can achieve rapid reversal of depression and later discovered the same for suicidality now on the tail of the COVID pandemic that practically put the science on hold for two years, it's clear. The thought leaders in psychiatry has concluded that ketamine is a standard of care treatment for depression and suicidality and is at least as effective, if not more effective than electroconvulsive therapy.
Ketamine infusion has moved from the hospital and the emergency ward six community clinics and some believe it should move to the home. We had NRx are on the cusp of that conversation. The problem with ketamine, of course, is that while it's dramatically effective in the short term. Well-designed studies reported in the past two years have demonstrated that it's neurotoxic. In other words, it kills brain cells when given for months at a time even at the low doses used to treat depression data from Stanford and elsewhere documents conclusively that ketamine not only blocks the NMDA receptor, but also binds to the opioid receptors that have been so central to the opioid crisis in the United States.
That's why even as we launch hope therapeutics to seek to make short term ketamine available to all insured patients has a life-saving therapy, not just to those who can pay out of pocket. We focus on NRX-101 and perhaps future non-addictive non-Euro toxic medicines that also target the NMDA receptor without those side effects, we already have scientific evidence that NRX-101 works to preserve that ketamine effect as a follow-on drug for ketamine, it has the potential to help hundreds of thousands of patients in the next few weeks. Now that we're completing database lock on our clinical trial, we will have a first glimpse of whether an Rx one-on-one is also sufficiently potent to treat severe depression and suicidality without prior use of ketamine and to do so in the outpatient setting.
In our 10-K, we made a brief comment about a new opportunity that's still evolving to partner with the fresh funding since fundamental on a new drug with an entirely different mechanism of action that may represent the first drug in human history. To reverse the brain injury that causes schizophrenia not merely to treat schizophrenia, devastating symptoms. Thus, we deeply appreciate the trust that you our shareholders have imparted as we emerge from the COVID pandemic and return to our core mission and CNS disease.
At the end of 2022, the company's Board and management had a single clinical trial initiated in bipolar depression had no commercial sales partners and $11 million in debt in 2023 and the year to date, we've secured a global commercial partnership for the first indication of our lead drug and NRX-101. We've received a $5 million advance on potentially $330 million in milestones for that indication. We've expanded our patent portfolio to include the use of NRX-101 in chronic pain. We've opened an FDA IND and await efficacy data for chronic pain. We've obtained efficacy data for the use of ketamine in suicidal depression from both national clinical trials and positioned ourselves to seek FDA approval for ketamine in 2024. And finally, we've obtained unexpected data that demonstrates the efficacy of NRX-101 in treating complicated UTI and pyelonephritis with a company recognition from the FDA in the form of qualified infectious disease products and Fast Track designation.
We've done that with a dedicated team of fewer than a dozen scientists and business leaders together with your financial support. While achieving these scientific advances, we've created a new subsidiary called Therapeutics, which has completed manufacturing of the first batch of releasable ketamine cell will be distributed under national pharmacy licenses, even as we seek FDA new drug approvals. Our 2023 development partnership with Allergan and Lotus Pharmaceuticals to develop our lead candidate, NRX-101 in suicidal bipolar depression is key to a global launch of NRX-101 to treat bipolar depression worldwide. In March, we recorded last patient last visit in that clinical trial of NRX-101 versus Lurasidone.
In 2023, we published a peer reviewed randomized trial, led by Professor Andrew Nierenberg from Harvard Mass General, demonstrating that NRX-101 significantly reduces both depression and suicidality after ketamine compared to that standard of care drug. The purpose of this trial is to see if we can demonstrate effectiveness of enterprise one-on-one without prior use of ketamine. We expect to launch the database from the trial this week, and we expect to be reporting top line results from the trial. This month. Positive results from this trial and comments from the FDA will trigger an additional $4 million milestone from Allergan and begin transfer of all expenses related to interest. One for bipolar depression through our partners. In addition, we are eligible for an additional $320 million in milestones, plus a royalty that reaches 15% on net sales. The NRX-101 demonstrates success either as a stand-alone drug as the drug to preserve the known efficacy of ketamine or both NRX-101 has the potential to be used in the therapy of millions of Americans and many more around the world who suffer from bipolar depression and whose only approved therapy today is electric shock therapy partnership agreement leads and RX.
The potential to continue to own and to develop the NRX-101 for the much larger indications of PTSD and chronic pain. With the database lock, we expect to report top line data later this month, our patents on NRX-101 cover both composition of matter and method of use to treat many forms of depression, PTSD in chronic pain. In 2023, we've partnered with Professor van yet Karen and his research team at Northwestern University around the use of NRX-101 in treating chronic pain through 2016. Clinical trial demonstrated efficacy on a post hoc analysis. And this week, they are achieving data lock on a 200-person Department of Defense funded trial that seeks to replicate the efficacy findings in today's world.
There's essentially nothing to treat chronic pain that bridges the melt relatively mild effects of tile at all and Motrin like drugs on the one hand and the potent. But addictive and dangerous class of opioids on the other, the magnitude of the effects in chronic low back pain seen in the 2016 trial was such that a replication of that finding could provide a pain drug that has an effectiveness that's close to opioids, but its safety profile that's far closer to the non-opioid pain drugs. We aspire to unlock a path to breakthrough nontoxic addictive pain drugs that could improve the lives of some 50 million American adults who suffer from chronic pain and nearly 0.5 billion around the world. This partnership in 2023 on chronic pain for NRx. one oh one has not diminished our interest in pursuing an indication for NRX-101 in post-traumatic stress disorder and the Oxford conference last week made clear that NMDA antagonists have enormous potential to treat PTSD. Thus, we hope to initiate our work in PTSD later in 2024 as we announced, we incorporated hope therapeutics as a specialty pharmaceutical company to advance and commercialize intravenous ketamine for suicidal depression. I initially we expected that ketamine would be developed by others for the treatment of bipolar depression.
However, the scientific record thus far suggests that intravenous resume Academy in, i.e. the form that we're manufacturing and expect to deliver. It's effective in rapidly reducing suicidality and depression. While nasal and other forms of administration may be less effective in 2023, we partnered with leading researchers to be able to submit definitive efficacy findings of government supported placebo-controlled trials to the FDA in support of new drug approval for Cadomin. When we embarked on this mission, we always expected ketamine to outperformed placebo based on 20 years of academic research findings.
The surprise of 2023 was the release of the 400 person Harvard led patient-centered outcomes research initiative or precautionary initiatives that demonstrated a larger antidepressant effect for ketamine then for electric shock therapy with none of the undesirable side effects of ECT such as short-term memory loss that Macquarie Group is now embarking on a larger trial in patients with suicidal depression, and we look forward to partnering with them in that process. I Hope is a specialty pharma company, not a drug development company. We've already been offered term sheets property more than $60 billion of funding for hope because of the recognition that the paradigm for treating suicidal depression is changing as we speak.
And understanding the old model of hospitalization and electric shock is rapidly becoming a second-line therapy. Yet the evidence is clear that the ketamine effect is measured in days to weeks and that long-term repeated use of ketamine may lead to addiction and neurotoxicity. Therefore, we believe that NRX-101 may well have a long-term role in transforming the lives of those who suffer from suicidal depression hope will incorporate other therapies, including potentially digital therapeutics as it seeks to build a network of lifesaving care around patients who today have a higher mortality risk.
And those who suffer from breast cancer, prostate cancer and other common malignancies. The rate-limiting step in filing a new drug application for ketamine is having a new drug in your hands with which to apply. It's easy to say, well, let's just apply to the FDA for a label, but you actually have to have a drug with which to do the formulation and presentation ketamine as an anesthetic states to the Korean War. It's an old drug that is increasingly played by critical drug shortages as reflected on the FDA database.
We partnered with Nephron Pharmaceuticals of South Carolina to develop a new formulation and diversion and resistant presentation. FCA regulations require at least nine months of stability in the presentation you intend to market before you can file for new drug approval, and we will reset time point this quarter at the same time, given the critical drug shortage of ketamine that's been announced by FDA for partnered with Nephron to deliver ketamine immediately to high quality clinics who will one day form the backbone of Hope's delivery system.
Last week, the first batch of ketamine was approved for shipment in a pharmacy presentation and on the loading dock to augment and extend the efficacy of IV ketamine, we're beginning to work on a companion digital therapeutics. I previously participated in developing such digital therapeutics for the US Navy to results to reduce stress and warfighters. It's an effective product that's still in use will build on that learning and technological advances to help suicidal patients get back on track.
Additionally, as a proprietary product, this will enhance our market exclusivity. We're sure that some of you are curious about why we invested a small amount of capital really less than $100,000 in establishing an indication for complicated UTI and pyelonephritis for NRX-101. First of all, this condition affects 20% of Americans who develop urinary tract infections. And that percentage is climbing as antibiotics that have served us well for 50 years increasingly fail.
Of the 15 million Americans who develop UTI. every year, 3 million to progress to complicated UTI and at least 15,000 size urinary sepsis. The secretary is an interesting drug. It works by a completely different mechanism than other antibiotics. And it's the only antibiotic that's highly concentrated in the urine. There's no evidence that it can cause the debilitating diarrhea and other side effects of the new fourth line antibiotics and most importantly, it can be given by mouth, whereas many of those require intravenous administration, ACS fell out of favor as an antibiotic in the 1960s in part because of its propensity to cause mild CNS side effects. However, we seem to have neutralized those side effects with the addition of Lurasidone to interact one on one.
The mechanism of action is simple in a brain cell CCS. mimics the amino acid glycine and inhibits the NMDA receptor in a bacterium. However, CCS mimics the amino acid alanine gets incorporated into the cell wall and causes the bacteria to explode animal cells don't have cell walls. So this effect is seen only in bacteria, peer-reviewed data for NRX-101 in the treatment of bugs that cause complicated to duty, I think, were just published in the peer-reviewed literature last week, and we invite you to read the results at any rate now that we know that NRX-101 is a potent agent against resistant bacteria that harm millions of Americans.
We expect to identify a product already engaged in antibiotic marketing for this opportunity. It's important to understand what that SDAQIDP. designation means it means that even without a patent for use of DCS. as an antibiotic. We're entitled to five years of market exclusivity, Fast Track designation and priority review. That's why we think this drug has a real application as we identify a partner in the anti-infective space. Steve's now going to address some of our corporate achievements during 2023 and the quarter that follows.

Stephen Willard

Thank you very much, Jonathan. As you know, I joined NRx as CEO in July 2022. My job was to reduce the daunting cash burn and help align the management team into a dedicated group that has the potential to take our drugs to market. Although we have not yet generated our first dollar revenue, we have demonstrated progress that motivated a discerning corporate partner to advance its milestone payments for our first clinical indication, not only have we survived 2023, we expect to see the revenue flow from commercial operations again by the end of 2024.
That's clearly a forward-looking statement, but one that we believe is within our capacity to achieve everyone on this call knows that 2023 was possibly the worst year in the history of the biotechnology industry and many pre-market biotechnology companies did not survive. We emerged from 2023 on a more solid front than we entered and are poised for ongoing success, particularly if the clinical data that we read out later this month is positive even if two highly promising trials don't give us the short-term answers we seek, we project that the ketamine foundation we have built will yield positive cash flow by the end of 2024 a belief that is reinforced by the response we have received from large institutional investors.
On the corporate front, we have raised approximately $17 million in new capital and additions to working capital since the beginning of 2023. Additionally, we have reduced corporate debt by more than 50% from $11 million, down to approximately $5.4 million through the first quarter of 2024.
Finally, we have taken steps to maintain our NASDAQ listing by first, achieving compliance with the market value of listed securities requirements and then effecting a reverse split to comply with the $1 minimum bid price by their design and combating illegal shorting of NRx securities all to support shareholder value. It's important that we keep our share price in the zone that is investable by high-quality institutions. I'm incredibly proud of our team, grateful to our partners and investors as well as all of the patients who have participated in our clinical trials. We look forward to advancing the company and further continue this growth in December, we were delighted to add nationally recognized turn the agenda at Vanquis to our company's Board of Directors. Janet brings vast experience and insight to our company in critical areas, and we welcome.
I expect you will see us add other members to our board who have direct experience in the commercialization of pharmaceuticals as we move from pure research and development to commercial operations. Jonathan has explained some of the value drivers that underline our purpose and hope therapeutics to build value for NRF shareholders. We intend to distribute shares of Hope therapeutics to existing shareholders in the near term and then to gain a public listing for the Company on a national exchange, we have received considerable interest from investors both for a bridge round to get our listing and a more substantial raise to support the launch of the product.
We are actively building out our team partners and network with the goal of launching the product at the beginning of 2025. Delaware corporate law requires us to deliver on a dividend within 60 days of declaring. And thus, we are waiting until we have the audit and SEC filings in place to launch hope prior to officially declaring the dividend. Some ask, given that ketamine is a generic drug, why the FDA approved?
Why seek FDA approval for use in depression. Simply put without FDA approval. The only people who have access to this life-saving treatment or those who can pay cash FDA approval is key to insurance reimbursement discussions with clinics to date have indicated, the lack of reimbursement is the key impediment to patients getting the treatment they need. We aim to solve this problem in advance of this, there is still considerable need for high-quality, reliable sources of candidates.
To that end, we have formed collaborations with a Bi-Lo three A. and FIVO. three b. pharmacy to provide ketamine clinics in need. First lots have recently become available, and sales can commence shortly. Additionally, these near-term activities will serve as an excellent entry into those clinics once our NDA is approved and we have full licensed and reimbursable product to offer. As you can see, we have been careful stewards of your funds. We have trimmed our operating expenses, reduced our corporate indebtedness, credit, non-dilutive partnerships support, realigned our executive team and expanded our pipeline to a robust clinical development program with a multi-billion dollar potential. We will work hard every day to bring these to reality and to bring hope to life.
I will now ask Rich Narido, our CFO, to review the fourth quarter financials. Rich?

Richard Narido

Thank you, Steve, and good morning, everyone. I will now review the highlights of our fourth quarter and full year 2023 financial results. Before reviewing the numbers, it's important to recognize that we have consistently reduced our cash expenditures and expect to further reduce those expenditures as we complete the NRX-101 clinical trial.
Expecting data like imminently, expecting data readout early in the second quarter of 2024. For the three months ended December 31, 2023, we had at Rx Pharmaceuticals reduced our net loss from $10.2 million in the final quarter of 2022 to $4.3 million in 2023, representing nearly a 50% improvement year over year. Over that same period, we reduced research and development expenses from $4.5 million in 2022 to $2.5 million in 2023, while substantially improving and finalizing our clinical trial enrollment. The $2 million decrease is related primarily to a decrease of $1.1 million clinical trial expenses, $0.6 million stock-based compensation and $0.2 million in consulting and personnel wage costs.
Also in that three-month period, we recorded a 67% reduction in general and administrative expenses from $5.4 million in 2022 to $1.8 million in 2023, a decrease of $3.6 million related primarily to a decrease of $1.3 million in insurance expense, $1.3 million stock-based compensation, $0.5 million in employee expenses, $0.2 million in legal and professional consulting fees and $0.2 million in franchise tax expenses.
For the year ended December 31, 2023, and NRx Pharmaceuticals, we produce from that loss to $30.2 million compared to $39.8 million in the prior year. On these efficient fees represent an improvement in net loss of nearly $10 million year over year and a $0.2 or 34% improvement in net loss per share year over year over the annual period, we recorded $13.4 million of research and development expenses compared to $17 million for the same period in 2022, representing a 21% decrease year over year.
The decrease of $3.6 million related primarily to a decrease of $2.1 million linked-quarter trial and development expenses, $0.9 million related to fees paid to regulatory and process development problems, $0.8 million in stock-based compensation, while offset by a $0.2 million increase in tax costs as our part patent portfolio has expanded. Please note that the improvement in G&A expenses is even larger than improvement in other areas.
We decreased G&A by $13.1 million from the $27.3 million 2022 to $14.2 million in 2023, nearly a 50% decrease year over year. As of December 31, 2023, we had $4.6 million in cash and cash equivalents. Over the first three months of 2024, we improved our access to working capital by $8 million in total, representing $2.9 million from equity sales and $5.1 million from the AltiGen milestone events while reducing our corporate indebtedness by 50%. We continue to implement operational efficiencies to extend runway and focus on our path to generating revenue. We believe that the near term delivery of clinical trial data and the planned launch of Hope therapeutics will be defining events in the second quarter of 2024.
With that, I will turn it back to Jonathan for closing remarks. Jonathan?

Jonathan Javitt

I think it's time to take questions.

Question and Answer Session

Operator

Thank you. We will now be conducting a question-and-answer session. (Operator Instructions)
Tim Moore, EF Hutton.

Tim Moore

Thanks and good morning, everyone. Yes, you made a lot of great progress over the past few quarters and like you said, it wasn't easy in biotech land last year and you came out even stronger. And I was just wondering maybe Jonathan And Matt, if you can elaborate more on the hope in digital therapeutics, maybe give investors a little more color on the anatomical coherence, the software possibility there just pathways and just what you're thinking about as a development route over the next year or two?

Jonathan Javitt

Thank you, Tim, and it's really exciting to see you and people of your caliber joining our calls. So this area of digital therapeutics really began in the military. It began with a recognition that if you can teach someone to synchronize breathing and heart rate, which you know for years has been achieved through meditation, but that's extraordinarily difficult for most people to master. You actually reduce physiologic evidence of stress, you can show reduction in serum cortisol levels and other your hard laboratory findings.
So what was done back in the early 2000s with funding from dark of the Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency was to build something that looks like a video game, but you actually win the video game by synchronizing breathing and heart rate and the kind of the target audience at the time was special forces operators. I was involved in a demonstration project where a group of Navy Special Forces operators went through the combat simulator in Quantico, both with and without using this technology and demonstrated not only improved company performance, but substantially reduced measures of stress and depression on the back end so much so that the the product for me is for sale within the military?
Well, the challenge we have is as the paradigm shifts and people recognize that ketamine achieves a rapid reduction in both suicidality and depression. The question is how do you maintain that effect? Because if you keep giving ketamine for months at a time, at least the clear evidence from primates is that you're going to kill brain cells. One of the things weren't pursuing and civilian Icing that population that was developed with millions of dollars of Department of Defense, R&D into something that can be useful for patients who are coming to ketamine clinics. Of course, we hope that they'll take an Rx one-on-one on a long-term basis. Once we have demonstrated that efficacy and gotten FDA approval for up. But we also think that these kinds of digital technologies have real potential and not only that if they become part of the labels, the drug faced and the intellectual property horizon of that drug. So I hope that begins to give you a sense and we're going to hope to do a teach-in on that sometime over the next quarter.
So that's very helpful, Yahoo. Look towards the future, but I can be a better sense of the the optionality there. And just seems like it's such a good untapped market. Nobody else is playing in and you have a pretty good first first mover advantage on my other questions around your database lock occurring. It sounds like this week top line data and probably by the end of this month. Can you just walk us through the next two steps you plan to take and maybe just provide more details on that if you were to just give us a sense of kind of the roadmap over the next 12 months from now that yes, top line data will be coming out.
Well, yes, database lock means that and we have once and for all confirmed every endpoint feel from the patient forms in the study site through the database. At that point, we have the data files, the statisticians and they perform the statistical analysis according to the VSAP., the statistical analysis plan, and we've put that up on clinicaltrials.gov. So anybody who wants to read it, I should be able to if the data are positive, the plan is to conduct a meeting together with Allergan with the FDA to gain FDA alignment on a registration study that would bring an Rx one-on-one to market for patients with severe depression and suicidal ideation. Remember, we previously showed that the drug works after ketamine. That's why FDA gave us breakthrough therapy. So the purpose of this trial is to see whether the drug can work without prior use of candidates, either way, depending on the results of this trial, we're going to be going to FDA and saying we want to bring the drug to market either with or without requiring prior use of ketamine and aligning on the final design of that study. Now one of the things we're likely to be able to do is to do the trial against placebo. If we're not working with acutely suicidal patients which is a much easier trial and a trial that has a much higher probability of success. Remember in this trial were comparing x one oh one to a known effective drug namely the residents, if I'm comparing interest one-to-one to placebo, that, that comparisons of already succeeded in numerous academic studies.
Great.
Thanks for those added details and color. And I really appreciate your methodical strategic plan that you share into.
That's it for my questions this morning.

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Ed Woo with Ascendiant Capital Markets.
Please proceed with your question, your congratulations on the progress you've done. Have you talked about your pricing or reimbursement strategy for it? I mean, well, as NC., no, there is an approved form of ketamine that's for sale in the marketplace today, it's offered by J & J & J & J's reported sales in, I think, above $600 million associated with with that drug. So there's an established market. The problem is that drug is not only not indicated for bipolar depression. You know that about 40% of people who commit suicide have bipolar depression. There's a REMS around that drug that precludes its use in people with bipolar depression. So we think there's a real pricing opportunity. You're in a better position than we are to advise the public as to the current pricing of that currently marketed drug. But as we have third party indications of pricing, we'll certainly report them suffice it to say that if you can get insurance coverage for people, payers have indicated a real willingness to pay for this therapy because the alternative of psychiatric hospitalization and electric shock therapy is something that, first of all is horrible for patients. And second of all, costs payers, the better part of $40,000 in the 1st year. So we believe there's some market opportunity but we're certainly going to be guided by the security analysts as well.
Great for the detail, and thank you for answering my question.
I wish you guys.
Good luck.
Thank you.
Thank you.
Thank you. There are no further questions at this time. I would like to turn the floor back to Matt Duffy for any closing remarks.
Thank you, everyone.
That's all the time we have for today. We appreciate your joining us this morning.
And this concludes Eric's Pharmaceuticals Fourth Quarter 23 and full year conference call. Thank you all for participating.
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