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Q3 2024 Karooooo Ltd Earnings Call

Presentation

Hello, and welcome to Karooooo's FY 2024 Q3 earnings call. On behalf of Karooooo, we'd like to thank you for joining us today. I'm Carmen, the group's Chief Strategy and Marketing Officer; and together with Hoe Shin, our Group Chief Financial Officer, we'll be taking you through our strong business updates and financials. All investors are advised to read through the disclaimer.
We will be reviewing all three of Karooooo's business units in today's webinar, namely, Cartrack, Carzuka and Karooooo Logistics.
Karooooo remains committed to our mission of being the leading operations cloud. Our focus is to simplify the lives of operators and maximize the scale and efficiency of their operation. Our innovative platform goes far beyond connected vehicles and equipment to centralize and unify an entire operation into one single place. We are helping to pave the benchmark and future of efficiency, safety and impact for operational businesses.
Fundamentally, every operation wants to achieve safety targets and compliance targets and well-being targets, but historically these have come at the compromise of the core survival and success targets of the business, productivity and efficiency.
Having a tool that solves complex problems in simple ways is no small feat, and this is a constant driver for our strong growth at scale. Everything is embedded together. The tool that automatically flags potential fuel fraud to save thousands is the same tool that automates carbon emission tracking. The tool that optimises routes to slash mileage and fuel consumption also makes drivers' lives easier and puts them at ease to ensure they get paid for every minute they worked.
When burdens like maintenance are well managed, they become strong differentiators for operators and this is easily done through our automation and integrations. Karooooo's platform allows operators to prioritize safety and compliance with heightened productivity.
Karooooo's AI powered cameras are redefining the boundaries of visibility. These cameras stand as safety pioneers, revealing hidden risks and enabling proactive responses. From slashing accidents to exonerating innocent drivers, their profound impact transcends industries.
A key factor contributing to the success of our platform is its smooth integration into our customers' various operational workflows. In challenging environments like mines, traditional methods such as sit-down discussions on driving styles may not be feasible. Recognizing the significance of training, our innovative approach involves utilizing our risk management control room tool and two-way in-cab communication tools for on-the-spot training and immediate action.
The generated alerts ensure prompt intervention and risk mitigation, such as directing drivers to rest when fatigued. The outcome has been transformative, with a remarkable 59% reduction in fatigued or distracted driving in just four months, resulting in an overall decrease in accidents.
In other industries, establishing formal training is feasible and driver incentives are based on safety scores. A leading mass bus company transporting around 1 million passengers daily has revolutionized an industry and made significant impact on community safety with a 41% decrease in fatigue and distracted driving in just three months. Not only has this led to positive branding as commuters see the change and feel safer, but it has also boosted operational efficiencies by reducing accidents and minimizing the associated downtime.
Accidents involving company vehicles often result in substantial maintenance and insurance expenses, protracted legal disputes, and employee disgruntlement. Our cloud-based footage has revolutionized the way companies address accidents, providing a straightforward means to investigate incidents and exonerate their teams.
This approach enables companies to establish clear mandates around liabilities, streamlining compliance and boosting employee morale. Workers appreciate a tool that prevents unwarranted blame leading to increased employee retention, whilst businesses benefit by avoiding unwarranted bills that often rack up to tens of thousands of dollars.
In an era where safety is taking center stage, our cameras are reshaping how we approach risk management, worker well-being, community safety, and operational efficiency. Our operations cloud drives digital transformation for over 113,000 commercial customers with a 95% retention rate across businesses of varying sizes in diverse markets and industries.
We continue to empower the day-to-day operations of our customers with our Data Enhance Platform, enabling them to make informed decisions with actionable intelligence about their own fleet, as well as others in their industries.
The continuous evolution of our platform ensures ongoing enhancements, driving increased returns for our customers, whilst we keep our ARPU stable. The value proposition of our platform is massive and we have a huge runway for growth.
Our culture, founded on customer centricity, transparency and solution orientated thinking, sets us apart. We attract top talent that thrives on challenges and values hard work over frills, fostering a team that leads by example. From infield technicians to decision makers, our team's curiosity, ingenuity and diverse experience results in a powerhouse of innovation and successful execution. Our unique culture, while not for everyone, cultivates resourceful individuals driven to efficiently solve complex problems.
I will now hand over to Hoe Shin, who will take us through our financial performance.

Thank you, Carmen. I will now talk through Karooooo's financial performance for Q3 FY 2024. Please note that all comparisons are against Q3 FY 2023, unless otherwise stated.
Quarter three has proven to be an exciting period for us. Our well-established and profitable SaaS business model and robust financial position provide us with multiple levels for growth. And our primary focus remains on growing our subscription revenue.
Our subscription revenue grew 17% to ZAR904 million and our ARR demonstrated an increase of 20% to ZAR3,711 million. Operating profit increased by 31% to ZAR275 million and our earnings per share grew 35% to ZAR6.34 despite our prudent provision made in the quarter relating to Carzuka's reduced operations.
All segments continue to see strong tractions with the benefits of our strategic investment beginning to show. Earnings in this quarter stood at ZAR199 million and our free cash flow are at ZAR162 million. Our free cash flow has remained positive over the last eight quarters despite our investment in the development of our new South Africa Central office. Up to this quarter, we had invested ZAR231 million in this development. Our high cash conversion are demonstrated through our strong financial discipline as we continue to invest for our future growth.
Our net cash on hand stood at ZAR782 million in this quarter. Debtor's turnover days improving to 30 days alongside with prudent provisioning to weather off strong economic headwinds in some of the market we are operating. We have strong unit economics, robust operating margins, unleveraged balance sheet and a strong cash conversion. We remain confident that our track record of success, especially our ability to generate healthy cash flow is sustainable.
Despite our provision in the quarter for Carzuka, our earnings per share increased by 35% to ZAR6.34. The increase is the result of positive revenue growth and improved profitability, notwithstanding with our prudent and strategic investment for growth.
Carzuka has negatively impacted our earnings per share by ZAR0.75, in line with the provision we make in the quarter as Carzuka reduces its operations. Based on our estimates, we believe we have made adequate provision, and going forwardly, we do not expect Carzuka to have significant impact on our earnings per share.
We will now focus on Cartrack, the underlying assets to Karooooo's success. Our momentum continued in this quarter as Cartrack extended its decade-plus track record of growth at scale, profitability and cash generation ability.
Overall, subscribers grew at scale by 14% to over ZAR1.9 million. Subscription revenue grew 17% to ZAR900 million, while operating profit grew to ZAR295 million. Cartrack's consistently proves its ability to scale in diverse macroeconomic conditions and consistently beaten the rule of 40.
And in this quarter, Cartrack saw a 34% growth in earnings per share, reaching ZAR6.96. Our earnings are benefiting from our robust economy soft skills. The expansion of Cartrack subscribers based by 14% to ZAR1.9 million reflects our highly successful rate of implementation and strong customer retention across various businesses.
The demand from small to large enterprises looking to enhance compliance function and embark on a digital transformation journey for increased efficiency and competitiveness in their operations remain high. Cartrack's total subscription revenue grew 17% to ZAR900 million and represent 98% of total revenue. Total revenue grew 14% to ZAR990 million. Our SaaS ARR grew 20% to ZAR3,695 million, showcasing the strength and growth potential of our SaaS business model.
As Cartrack continues to have strong visibility of its future SaaS revenue, our realisation of economy of scale continues to demonstrate our ability to expand margins. In this quarter, gross profit grew 19% to ZAR672 million and gross profit margin grew 3% to 73%.
Despite the investment for growth, Cartrack's operating profit grew 33% to ZAR295 million and operating profit margin grew 4% to 32%. Our adjusted EBITDA grew 29% to ZAR447 million and adjusted EBITDA margin are at 49%. Cartrack's low cost of acquiring a customer, high customer lifetime value and retention rate, as well as strong benefits from economies of scale result in our leading unit economics.
Our LTV to CAC is over 9. We have strong profit margins with our gross profit margin on subscription revenue at 75% and commercial customer retention rate of 95%. With our track record, we are well-positioned to continue to increase our market share.
Over the years, Cartrack has maintained a steady ARPU, an average upfront cost of acquiring a subscriber. ARPU for the quarter was ZAR160. Cartrack's average lifetime revenue per subscriber in this quarter stood at ZAR9,629. The average upfront cost of adding a subscriber to our cloud in this quarter was ZAR2,160. These costs mainly relates to sales commission and telematic device, which are capitalised and sales and marketing expenses that are expensed off.
The headroom, derived from the average lifetime revenue per subscriber, after subtracting the average upfront cost of adding a subscriber was ZAR7,469 per subscriber. From the ZAR7,469, we incurred a cost to service the subscriber over the contract life cycle of 60 months.
The cost to service a subscriber decreased as we grow our subscriber base. Our unit economics has remained steady, allowing us a strong operating profit. Cartrack continued to grow its subscriber base and ARR to expand in all geographies. Our subscribers in South Africa grew by 12% despite the challenging trading conditions.
Given that we continuously pass on additional benefits to our customer and have a rich data pool, we believe we will continue to see strong customer demand in this region. In Asia, the Middle East and USA subscriber grew by 26% as the traction in Southeast Asia has been encouraging.
Southeast Asia remain as the second largest contributor to the group's revenue, presenting the most compelling growth opportunity and deliver increasing and sustainable income to the group in medium to long term. Europe saw a healthy growth of 15% and remains a region we are focusing our resources on.
With our recent partnership with leading OEMs, we are poised to leverage our extensive offerings to future develop the connected vehicle ecosystem and expect these partnerships to contribute to our results in medium term.
In addition, we are experiencing encouraging demand for our proprietary compliance technology in the region. Africa others maintained its growth with 8% increase in subscriber. At the end of quarter three, our ARR increased 20% to ZAR3,695 million. This is a good trending as we continue to see the momentum of growth in our subscriber and ARR.
Cartracks continue to have robust operating margins, and our trends are in line with the long-term financial goals set out upon our listing in 2021. Our subscription revenue gross profit margin stood at 72%, which is consistent with our expectation.
Research and development expense as a percentage of subscription revenue are 6% as we focus on driving substantial benefit from our R&D capital allocation. Our planned investment in improving, enriching and expanding our operation cloud and internal management system is to enhance our value proposition to our customers.
Sales and marketing expense as a percentage of subscription revenue increased to 14%. We believe the strategic investment for customer acquisition position us well for continued growth and we expect to see future benefits from this investment. General and admin expenses as a percentage of subscription revenue are at 21%. The expenses has been relatively stable to reflect our commitment to build a strong support infrastructure to meet our future growth plan, yet being pragmatic in our spending.
Operating profit as a percentage of subscription revenue are 30% and adjusted EBITDA as a percentage of subscription revenue is at 48%. As we continue with our momentum in quarter three, we are pleased with our progress so far. Our outlook for Cartracks remains and we maintain our guidance with number of subscribers between ZAR1.9 million to ZAR2.1 million, Cartrack subscription revenue between ZAR3.4 million to ZAR3.6 million rand and Cartrack's operating profit margin between 28% to 31%.
Karooooo Logistics delivered significant growth generating ZAR91 million in revenue and a commendable operating profit of ZAR7 million in this quarter. It's focus on delivery as a service through selected third-party crowd source drivers and logistics companies has been highly scalable and is delivering substantial growth.
While we continue to integrate into Cartracks platform to expand its customer base, the Karooooo Logistics stack is expected to deliver a long-term revenue stream to the group. We believe the benefit of our strategic investment in this segment are starting to manifest.
I would like to thank everyone for joining us today and we will now open the floor to Q&A with our group CEO and founder Mr. Zak Calisto.

Question and Answer Session

Good morning and good evening to everyone. Thanks for joining us today. I want to start of with first question from [Miles Ferry].
What does Karooooo plan to do with Carzuka's IP?
We do use part of the Carzuka's IP for the broader spectrum of Cartrack business. So we intend at this point in time to continue using the Carzuka IP, although we're very aware that we could sell part of it if we wanted to. We're not certain at this point in time if we sold it and we made another, whether that wouldn't just create another competitor that would upset the OEMs and the dealerships. So we've sort of got to tread carefully and decide if we do sell it to be outside South Africa.
On a scale of 1 to 10, how does Cartrack performing in Southeast Asia and Europe relative to your expectations?
I think Miles, we definitely are on target with our budgets. Clearly, what we would like to do is start growing faster and we definitely -- that's exactly what we plan to do.
Do you see growth in South East Asia and Europe scaling fast in FY25 than in the current financial year? I think in the results of the next quarter we're certainly going to give the outlook and there we will be more firm in what we believe we can deliver.
The next question coming from Matt from William Blair. Can you update us on the progress with the OEMs?
I think the progress has been slow, but we certainly believe that once that progress starts, it's definitely going to be a kicker for attracting business and for customer acquisition. So we remain very hopeful that our integrations with the OEMs and our current collaboration with them is going to yield good results.
Another question from Matt from William Blair. How is Asia performing relative to your expectations?
Matt, we are seeing in equivalents with our forecasts and our budgets for the year and we certainly are doing a lot in the background to really increase our activity. Like I said earlier, I think within the next three months or so we'll be giving better guidance for FY25.
A question from [Cyndili]. Can you maintain debtors' days at 30 going into FY25?
I certainly believe that whether you got your debtors at 30 or 35, it's not much of a difference. And I think whether we're going to maintain it at 29, 31, it's all very healthy. So we've traditionally always had a very healthy debtors book. Historically, we've had a very healthy debtors book.
You said that free cash flow continues to benefit from prior investment efforts. Can you expect this trend to continue from this point? If you look at the slide that Hoeshin presented, our conversion over the last 24 months has actually been earnings as practically equaled our free cash flow.
Obviously, that is, if you take into account that we are deploying capital into building the building in Rosebank, which is going to be our South African head office, which is a very important investment. So once that building is built, then -- and if we continue growing at this pace, earnings and free cash flow equals. However, if we start growing much faster, then free cash flow will start coming down, simply because of our investment in customer acquisition. And similarly if our investment -- if our growth slows down further, then our free cash flow will be higher than our earnings.
Can you provide guidance for Carzuka Q4 loss? Well that's all been already provided and we believe, given our estimates, that we are now fully provided for the Carzuka losses and we expect Q4 not to have any losses in Carzuka. And if there are, it will be minimally insignificant. So we expect really our earnings just to be Karooooo Logistics and Cartrack, the addition of those two.
Question from Alex Sklar. Was there anything one-time benefiting the strong 73% gross margin result?
There was a little bit of a credit note on certain costs that came through in Q3, but they're not significant. And, we're quite used to historically seeing these types of gross profit margins, so there's nothing untowards it. (inaudible - microphone inaccessible) So I think a good gross profit target is 72% to 73%. I think that region is where we feel very comfortable. And at this point in time, if you look at year-to-date, we're at 72%. So I think that's very healthy and very much in accordance with our estimates.
Sales and marketing was down slightly quarter on quarter, can you talk about the capacity for gross ads you have in the current [seller] base? How are you thinking about sales and plans for the next 12 months?
Alex, we are very busy with the recruitment process to hire for actually the next 24 months. And we certainly believe that our investment, we're really going to invest quite a lot in that whole process and I believe we're going to get the benefits out of that going forward.
A question from [Matthew from Confluence Impact Fund]. Good subscriber for quarter growth in Asia. Please could you give details of the split of subscriber growth by country? What is the outlet for future growth?
I haven't got the subscriber by country and we don't really give that. But obviously our strong countries in the region are Singapore, Thailand, Philippines and Indonesia.
A question from [Rudy Fanickak]. Karooooo Logistics growing strongly. What is the scope for growth? How meaningful could operating profit contribute in the medium term?
Rudy, I imagine that operating profit in the medium term will still become relatively insignificant to the group. However, it's really what we're building on the Cartrack platform that can be very meaningful to the group. So we'll over the next 12 months get better visibility out that will actually increase our [indiscernible] in Cartrack.
Question from [Chris Logan]. Given the under-penetrated market and scale in Southeast Asia and possibly Europe, would it not make sense for consolidation to occur in a slow-growing and mature South African market?
I think, Chris, my personal view is that, South Africa has got still a lot of room for greenfield opportunity, and it's also got room to take market share from our competitors. Clearly we're very focused at this point in time from greenfield opportunity. And consolidation could be tricky and quite frankly I'm not certain it would be healthy for consolidation at this point, Miles in time, but maybe in four or five years-time it would be a good thing to consolidate.
Another question from Miles Ferry. When will the new headquarters in South Africa be in operation and will you hold the Q4 results in the premises?
We will start according to our plans. It was, the handover was planned for July this year for us to get the building. We're not looking at moving into the building at the end of May this year. So we probably two months or so before the planned date. Our debtor days trended down over the last year. Is 30 days the norm? I think I've answered that in a previous question.
Thank you, everybody. That's the questions for today. And thank you. Should anybody have any questions, please reach out to Lauren and send them an email. Thank you very much. Bye-bye.