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By Sudip Kar-Gupta

LONDON (Reuters) - State-owned Royal Bank of Scotland paid out nearly a billion pounds in bonuses to staff for last year despite posting a fourth-quarter loss of nearly 2 billion pounds after big losses in Greece and Ireland and costly restructuring.

RBS, 82 percent owned by the government after being rescued during the 2008 credit crisis, had a fourth-quarter loss of 1.8 billion pounds. The full-year loss stood at 2 billion, the fourth straight year in which it has made an annual loss.

It paid out 390 million pounds in bonuses for its investment bankers for 2011, down 58 percent from 2010, and representing an average bonus of 22,900 pounds per banker.

Chief Executive Stephen Hester said the payout was far lower than at rivals like Barclays and that the bank had to hire good staff to drive through his turnaround plan.

Payouts at RBS have been a sore point for many Britons, who remain angered by the fact that bankers - blamed by many for causing the 2008 financial crisis - have continued to pay themselves large salaries while elsewhere thousands lose their jobs as the global economy weakens.

"The noise around RBS is damaging. It's damaging to RBS achieving its goals," Hester told reporters.

Across the bank, RBS paid out 785 million in bonuses and other benefits, after stripping out deferred payments, down 43 percent from 2010.

RBS said staff costs at its investment banking division GBM, where it is cutting thousands of jobs, were 2.45 billion pounds in 2011, down 9 percent from the previous year.

RBS Chairman Philip Hampton and Hester waived their bonuses earlier this month after politicians from all of Britain's major parties called on them to refuse the awards.

Chancellor George Osborne and the spokesman for Prime Minister David Cameron both backed RBS's bonus cuts and welcomed the progress in its recovery plan.

CEO Hester said his five-year turnaround plan for the bank was on track.

However, RBS has had to lower its medium-term target for return on equity to around 12 percent from 15 percent, while its cost-to-income ratio target increased to 55 percent from 50 percent.

"We had to defuse the biggest ever timebomb in banking balance sheet assembled. And the irony is, the faster we reduce risk, the greater the losses we produce," he said.

The Unite trade union attacked RBS' bonus payouts, saying it ought to pay retail bank staff better, many of whom face pay freezes.

RBS Chairman Hampton said that while he acknowledged the need to curb bankers' pay, RBS still had a right to pay staff well. "We're paying at the lower end of the banking market. What we can't be, however, is off the pay scale," he said.

RBS SHARES RECOVER GROUND

RBS needed a 45 billion pound bailout in 2008. Its capital was eroded by the financial crisis and its part in the acquisition of Dutch bank ABN AMRO in 2007 pushed it close to collapse.

The bailout caused the eventual resignation of former boss Fred Goodwin, who was replaced by Hester. Goodwin was stripped of his knighthood earlier this year.

Some analysts welcomed RBS' progress at its profitable core divisions -- namely its retail and investment banking businesses, which are not in the process of being sold off or run down.

"We continue to remain impressed by the scale of balance sheet deleveraging and de-risking at RBS over the last three years," Daiwa Capital Markets credit analyst Michael Symonds said.

RBS shares were up 3 percent at 28.17 pence in late afternoon trade, still well below the 50 pence average price that the taxpayer bought its shares for, leaving taxpayers sitting on a 20 billion pound paper loss.

SVM Asset Management fund manager Colin McLean said he preferred to hold the shares of rival banks Barclays and HSBC to RBS, since RBS still faced more losses from its restructuring.

"The retail side seems to be doing better than expected, but the impairments are still significant," he said.

By 2013, RBS hopes to generate two-thirds of its income from its retail and commercial banking businesses, with one-third coming from its investment banking division.

Hester has cut 34,000 jobs since arriving at RBS in 2008, and in January RBS announced another 3,500 job cuts at its investment banking division.

Its investment banking restructuring will see the bank cut back from equities and advisory operations, while keeping its operations in areas of strength such as fixed income and foreign exchange.

It also plans to list its insurance business, which includes Direct Line, towards the end of this year, in a move which would form a new insurance company big enough to enter the benchmark FTSE 100 index.

However, RBS' lengthy turnaround process has made the timetable for any sale of Britain's stake in RBS uncertain, prompting some speculation that the government may consider selling some of the stake at a loss at first.

"2012 will be another year of heavy lifting for RBS," said Hester.

(Additional reporting by Steve Slater Michael Holden and Matt Falloon; Editing by Mike Nesbit and Elaine Hardcastle)

 

21 comments

  • Edriquer  •  London, United Kingdom  •  2 months ago
    Total loss £1.2 billion. Appoint me as CEO and I will immediately reduce loss by 33% to £800million. How you may ask? Well... just cancel the bonus this year. Simple isn't it? And if there's staff resignation because of non-bonus payment... so much the better. The bank if better off without these parasites anyway... isn't it?
  • DR.JOY K.JOSEPH  •  London, United Kingdom  •  2 months ago
    We could not understand the logic behind all these payments. Bonus is an incentive based on efficiency. when the bank is losing, when the customers are under threat and when the economy is under pressure how could we justify all these unscientific measures? Where are the regulators and the policy makers? Are they sleeping under the snow?
  • nitejar42  •  Douglas, United Kingdom  •  2 months ago
    Welcome to the land of Zog where failure is rewarded at the same rate as success. Now you can understand why schools tell pupils that it's not the winning but the participation that matters!. I always thought that to pay bonuses out of non-existent profits (ie LOSSES) was a CRIME! How things have changed since I qualified as an accountant 45 years ago! The RSB remuneration committee should be prosecuted for criminal incompetence and the bonus receivers for THEFT!
    • frankobserver 2 months ago
      If anyone thought that crime didn't pay, they should look at the lifestyle of the "failed" bankers. What a great example they set. How many have been arrested and jailed?
  • Christopher P  •  St Albans, United Kingdom  •  2 months ago
    Pure GREED !!!
  • MONKEY NUTS  •  2 months ago
    so they have made a loss, but can still payout huge amounts in bonus, i like to know when the shareholders are going to get a payout??? people who own the company not run it???because if anything if everyone and the government pulled out these people who earn these vast bonus would not even have a job!!! this is madness no other business in the land would behave like this.
  • DR.JOY K.JOSEPH  •  London, United Kingdom  •  2 months ago
    We could not understand the logic behind all these payments. Bonus is an incentive based on efficiency. when the bank is losing, when the customers are under threat and when the economy is under pressure how could we justify all these unscientific measures? Where are the regulators and the policy makers? Are they sleeping under the snow?
  • risolid  •  Faversham, United Kingdom  •  2 months ago
    Rewards for failure !! What a crazy system, what planet do these bankers come from? Where does the bonus come from if they made a massive loss? The customers will be slugged extra fees to make up some of the loss. If I can't pay my mortgage than do the same banker rules apply to me? I think not. If the Gov owns 82% of the bank then they should ban bonuses until they make a profit.
  • David  •  Birmingham, United Kingdom  •  2 months ago
    Don't pay any bonuses and significantly reduce salaries. If they leave, where will they go - the jobs aren't there! A salary is for a job done well. A bonus is for something done incredibly well. Cut the greedy expectations.
  • Steve  •  2 months ago
    Just doesn't make any sense does it. And our govt who are the major share holder (with our money) just stand by and watch.
  • keith s  •  Hounslow, United Kingdom  •  2 months ago
    Hesterical. a bank that was rescued by the state pay bonuses to people who would not have a job if the state had not recued the whole business including the bits we would have been happy to see fail. Bring on ring fencing a rescuing just the high street banks and let the investment banks fail. £45 billion for just RBS crippled a nation - Could Scotland have managed on its own?
    Is this 45billion in equity shares now? If so big mistake the state should be preferencial stakeholder with either secured loans or preferencial securities. These investment bankers are having a bubble and it has to stop in a business that only exists thanks to being seen as too important to fail.
  • Steve  •  2 months ago
    Could have halved their losses to £1 billion pounds if they hadn't paid out the £1 billion pounds in bonuses. None of it makes good business sense. How can they pay bonuses when they're making such huge losses.
  • phillip  •  2 months ago
    I'd like to know what the RBS did with the - $541 billion dollars it received from the U.S Federal Reserve a few years back around 2008/9 ?......when the Fed also bailed out the Bank of Scotland and Barclays with similiar amounts of outrageous billions....no one reported it at the time it only came out when the Federal Reserve had a rare audit of the fed imposed by Congress ?....even Forbes magazine said it was under reported that the Fed had given 16 Trillion dollars out to foriegn Banks and institutions at home and abroad...????????
  • GuyK  •  2 months ago
    those who argue we need to pay high to get good staff need to think a bit more deeply: pay is set in any industry according to the market. If the loss-making banks had gone to the wall or not been supported by the state then there would be a general lowering of wages in the industry and an increase in competition for the remaining jobs from investment bankers willing to work at lower rates. As it is we, the taxpayers, are keeping salaries throughout the banking industry at an artificially high level. Do you think Barclays, HSBC et al wouldn't reduce the salaries they pay if their competitors paid less or there was a larger labour pool for them to choose from?
  • Dave & Carol H  •  2 months ago
    Disgusting...they're just taking the mickey out of us and the government just sit back and watch!
  • mark  •  Madrid, Spain  •  2 months ago
    How interesting that the banks pay fortunes to suits who claim they can predict the future and make money from that, yet none of these clowns saw the public's anger and revulsion coming. Or if they did chose to to ignore it!
  • David  •  2 months ago
    How stupid can you get. 1 billion of bonuses for 2Bn of losses.
  • Darren  •  2 months ago
    Goooooodddd !!
  • Savi  •  2 months ago
    Like it or not that's how it works, and if you don't pay bonus for good investments and making money - expect the losses to be 10 times greater.
    • TonyH 2 months ago
      Savi talking out of your backside, thats why the country is in a mess through banking incompitence
    • Savi 2 months ago
      rubbish you haven't a clue you are just spouting one sided opinion fed you by biased reporting
  • rod  •  Brough, United Kingdom  •  2 months ago
    Close it down end of, along with the EU
  • guidedog  •  Edinburgh, United Kingdom  •  2 months ago
    losses this year are connected to PPI and Greece. The people working in the bank have an underlying profit which will become evident at the end of this year. The bonuses would be paid to these people if they were to work elsewhere,. How might you suggest the bank improves its position if there are no bonuses. To argue against this is crazy as we need to get our money back...
    • frankobserver 2 months ago
      RBS will return to profit for sure. It's almost impossible not to do so when you lend out money at a high interest rate against secured assets. But that doesn't make a banker a genius. And I think they've proved beyond doubt that they are anything but.
    • Christopher P 2 months ago
      Guidedog...In the real World...people work for their wage !!!
    • GRAHAM 2 months ago
      If it wasn't for taxpayers they wouldn't have a job let alone a bonus. Why can't they just work for salary until they return to profit.
 
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